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JP
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« on: January 29, 2006, 03:24:59 PM »

I have a very interesting story that involves two evocations.

The first, in the second Chaos class I evoked Mars, using the Cthonos CD. 

I had purchased 18 months ago, a condo for my son to use at college, rather than pay rent for a room.  We have had problems with the condo association over noise issues.  Even after we corrected some behavior, they took it upon themselves to drive us from the building.   They used abuse, intimidation tactics, lies, conspiracies, fines, late fees and finally, placing a lean on the property and threatening eviction and liquidation.  At the time of the Cthonos exercises, this had built to a point where I realized I would have to take it upon myself to bring legal action (a risky thing) against them.  I was furious!.. I am now, just thinking about it.  My pulse rate goes up, etc.  This had built up for some period of time with much mental duress on our parts as we realized that we could not satisfy these people no matter what we did.

This hit right in time for the Cthonos ritual.  I did some sigil against them.  I forget what, and I no longer have access to my post in the Chaos forum. (Pete, do you?)  I invoked Thoth for illumination for the legal battle ahead.

I evoked Mars to kick their asses.  I was enraged!  I had an image of mars with a spear with about a 2 foot blade tip.  I envisioned him slashing the three main culprits (H, R and T) into chunks.  Sliced and diced.  I envisioned him astride the condos in victory!  Very satisfying.

Time past.  As my legal team looked over 50 documents I had detailing abuse, the association filed a lawsuit on me, threatening the eviction scenario.

While negotiating a legal strategy, I drove to VT to find (successfully) a possible place to escape to, in case we had to leave.

On the way, I stopped to look a large bid of prey killed beside the road.  It was an enormous Owl.  I had my Goddess Path textbook in the car with me and saw that Athena, (represented by an Owl) offered defensive strength, the owl, implying wisdom, bring balance and restraint to Athena's strength.  I took a feather and invoked Athena, with water the rural Potomac River, reciting an invocation from the text.

My decision was to leave as quickly and politely as possible, canceling my lawsuit and being as humble and meek as possible, even though this rankled my son and I, as we felt wronged and they were getting away with it.  It was the right thing to do, all else were emotional reactions.

However, rather than letting me walk away (I said I'd leave by May at the latest), they continued their campaign, passing by-laws that allowed them to increase the rate of fines, late fees, legal actions etc.  I hurried my acquisition of an alternative abode.

Then today, my son calls me and said "H died today"  The guy, chief enforcer for the politburo, went out running and dropped dead on his return.  I feel this will ease any future legal actions against me as I exit the condo.

What else does it mean?  I haven't a clue.  But I'm thinking .  Thinking a lot.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2006, 08:01:54 PM »

Maybe Mars killed the owl, and Athena did the rest...  Smiley

Now, seriously...
I remember your work, and it's compatible with what happened.
Moreover, in recent days I have read a Hellblazer issue I have read a voodoo witch carachter saying you cannot
curse (scare or hurt) someone unless he gives you some kind of "rights" to do so, having damaged you previously.
I liked this theory 'cause is balance-oriented and match one of my previous experiences.

I suppose you are feeling some internal turmoil now.
From the outside of this turmoil I suggest you can exploit the situation with the "evil glamour" trick.
If you meet your opponents, and you make them glimpse some magical symbol you are wearing,
and you explain them about "the inescapability from death" with insidious voice and luciferian eyes,
implicitly referring to what happened to your foe, youll' probably tap enough the atavistic
terror of death in them and scare enough to leave you in peace (at least).

Not a white magic style anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2006, 08:10:50 PM »

If you meet your opponents  No, I think this is over.  We'll sell and move by March. 

I'm not in turmoil.  I'm very interested and thoughtful.

I feel good about the fact that I had disengaged and tried to leave without further conflict. 

Initially, I was abused and cornered and I was angry and emotional and lashed out.

regardless of any input on the situation I may have had, a person like this, repressed, focused on control (2nd circuit issues)...this stress builds toxins and bile.  These are the things that cause heart attacks.  I can't be responsible for his choices.

You however, 8 Wasps, should stay on my good side.  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2006, 09:40:57 PM »

A fellow student shared my original ritual notes with me from the class forum.  The enchantment of the sigil has come true.  I could make a case for the owl feather and association of Athena, defensive strength and judgement as a divination sign to withdraw strategically.

I listened to the cd once to get a visual sense of the rooms.  I had printed out a picture of Mars, a Sigil drawn along the lines of acheive victory over the enemy and obtain a peaceful coexistence and a picture of Thoth.  I stared at these when appropriate.  I felt the time in each of the rooms was longer than I normally spend on similar activities.  I was forced to hold images longer though, so I assume that's a good thing.

I had a great mental image of the crypt.  I evoked Mars and sent him to the enemy complex.  He was resplendant in Red, with a Spear, Armor and the male symbol of a circle and arrow in red.  I had excellent visions of him chasing the three enemies in question and slashing them thinly with his spear.  Repeatedly, with gusto!  Then he became a Colossis in size and stood over the complex victoriously!  Great images!

I enchanted the sigil by envisioning me picking up the sigil from the alter.  I opened my eyes and stared at it until I had a mental image.  I then imagined laying the sigil back on the alter and seeing the image change colors into white/gold flames and burn into the alter.

I tried to divine by repeating a mantra asking for knowledge to help me defeat the enemies.  I tried staring in the green crystal ball  but saw nothing.  No results yet but I remain patient and optimistic.

I meditated on Thoth, Eygptian God of Wisdom and Magic for illumination.
  Thoth for wisdom in my upcoming battle and for wisdom in general.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2006, 08:07:04 PM »

JP, the disengagement, I think, was key.  The loss of interest, the detachment.  If your enemy continues to accost you, acts in a punitive manner, it's very effective to simply not care.  I have gone out of my way to warn people not to attack me in any way, and if I have done something wrong to them I apologize profusely.  The decks thus cleared, if anybody comes after me intending harm ....... it's just not a good idea.  Because it's not me who's going to sustain damage.

I have an interest in Santa Muerta, Most Holy Death.  S/he's becoming very powerful in Mexico.  Yet another Angel of Death dressed up in a different outfit.  One of the animals attributed to this entity is the Owl.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2006, 10:19:07 AM »

JP I no longer have access to the forums, and as far as I know the tutors have no more access at any time than the participants.

When it comes to combat magic some people seem to think, oh well, I don't think I'm that good a magician, or I don't think magic really works all that well, so I had better throw in some sort of all out thermonuclear hell spell and hope that it at least has some effect. Often it has no effect untill they have more or less forgotten about it and maybe even decided it wasn't such a good idea, but not attempted to cancel it, and then sometimes it has a major effect.

Over the years one learns to conjure for exactly what one really wants, and in combat magic that often means some form of restraint or withdrawal or surrender on the part of ones adversaries, rather than their complete anihilation.

Anyway, don't worry about it, there's always the consolation that the death was a complete coincidence, if you do not wish to take responsibility for it, and there's no way you can ever tell anyway. Better luck with a more precise intent next time!

Stokastikos.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2006, 01:14:57 PM »

Yeah!  Like he said!  The first time someone died shockingly around me was not long after I encountered the Angel of Death. A man in a Hollywood liquor store pulled a knife out, threatened me, tried to accost me sexually.  I ran from him, down dark streets, terrified, breathing hard.  The next day this man was found dead in a dumpster.  About a week later I saw the Angel of Death.  He brought up this incident chuckling over how foolish it was for this man to have attacked me.  I got all upset saying oh no, you didn't do this for me, did you?  What about my KARMA!!!  I'm a good little Buddhist girl and I can't fuck up my KARMA!  My Angelic friend gave me the dark menacing grimace he's so famous for and pointed out that if the man with the knife hadn't attacked me in the first place we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we.

I still never felt right about it.  Believe it or not, I try very hard to not hurt anybody. Popes, rock stars, queens and kings notwithstanding.   Wink

This culture has much invested in teaching its members that magick has no power and sorcery possesses no efficacy.  The greatest trick the Devil ever played was not making the world believe he didn't exist, but making the world believe magick doesn't exist.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2006, 11:25:40 AM »

<snip>This culture has much invested in teaching its members that magick has no power and sorcery possesses no efficacy.  The greatest trick the Devil ever played was not making the world believe he didn't exist, but making the world believe magick doesn't exist.</snip>

Well said. (And good to heard from you again, Dal.)
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2006, 01:46:09 PM »

React from my beliefsystem so be aware in case you steal anything. 
To find an owl as prey and dead ( accident included) one often takes that as symbol of dead to come.
Question mostly who's number has come up and why tribe or oneself needs protection from that spirit.
That omen involved means to me that the death has been none of your doing
but needs attention anyway.   
Specially since you picked it up and used it for another ritual
and decided to let war go.

Thinking about Stokastikos comment on intent...
Make a note to avoid annihilation.. Smiley Very wise.

In your intent I do however read victory over enemy and peaceful coexistence, so annihilation is out of question.
At best you played defense not attack, but your intent has been ambivalent to start with.
So reading your second sight:
That Mars did have a great slashing. It is what he does Smiley
It represents the victory part to me or mainly reversing the energy of attack.
In that he has to slice it into pieces.
If reversing energy played a role I don't feel that you can have responsibility for what they sent.  In battle it is return to sender, adress unknown.  Elvis is the king.
Mainly saying that this kind of defense can have this results, but only if the opponent has been stupid enough to set himself up and you had an annihilation intent.
You didn't.

So again I don't belief this to be the case here.
Owl says to me his number was up anyway....with and without your doing, doesn't matter. 
Sort of makes it funny. Would you have been so upset all the time, knowing that target would disappear so fast from 3-D?

But it is still warning as I read another possibility:
If you pick up guilt or responsibility now, you may loose psychic battle
and guy can hunt you for rest of your life. Maybe he wants that. I don't know.
You  become prey of owl who attacks invisible and silent instead of ally. 
These kind of spirits don't give up just because they change planes of existance.
Thoughtsinfusion seems sneaky way of opponent.
The hooks maybe arrogance and power of magician.
May be you need killermoment for selfimage. 

I awould say that your enchantment for peaceful coexistance did come true in a strange way.
Because that was the choice you have been making after owl, despite anger.
You don't have victory over outside- enemy... As I understand you did give up the flat, you didn't win a lawsuit yet.
However you do have a victory over yourself or enemy within.

From that I feel it just takes a short jump to banish that spirit and win final battle in other dimension.     
By the way, the way you got owlfeather means it has become poweranimal of yours.
Can happen that the invisible are no longer so invisible to you.
You are a birdman anyway. Smiley

Sorry for different point of view.



 



 


 



 

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2006, 06:55:08 PM »

To find an owl as prey and dead ( accident included) one often takes that as symbol of dead to come.

Multiple different interpretations of the owl, common denomionator being that it seems to be some kind of sign or portend.  All the interpretations can be interpreted as valid, based on the situation.\

Your Mars interpretation works for me.

If you pick up guilt or responsibility now, you may loose psychic battle
and guy can hunt you for rest of your life.


Nah.  First off, I have no guilt or responsibility.  I never had that kind of reaction.  I was mostly in awe that such a result could follow (not necessarily be caused by) my enchantment.

If anything, I feel like the guy ran onto my (Mars') spear.  And if he wasn't poweful enough to avoid that in life, I don't fear him in death.  His bad choices (karma) put him where destiny wanted him.

Can happen that the invisible are no longer so invisible to you.
You are a birdman anyway.


Yeah.  I had a bald eagle (very rare) sighting the other day, near Charlottesville, at the base of Monticello ()Thonas Jefferson's house).  I do pay attention to the birds.

Sorry for different point of view.

Thanks for the point of view.  Not all that different
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