Seidr/Seething (jan fries school of chaos)

[alk mem]

anyone plugged into this guy's work?

his HELRUNAR is pretty interesting, a kind of hybrid (sort of) OF edred thorsson and...maybe pete carroll....

but quite orignal and leaves alot room for the reader/magus to do her-his own hermeneutick thing. thang.

[alk mem]

o and his other book that expands on the excellent chapter on SEETHING (trance/possessionwerk) in Helrunar is

Seidways: shaking, swaying and serpent mysteries

which almost sounds like a book on delta blues juke joints and appalachian snakehandling cults.

i think it almost is.

ah, and yes, HELRUNAR also goes into sigils in a wholly accessible, effective way.

 

[zach]

thanks for the info... never heard of this seidr/seething, or jan fries...sounds really cool!

[alk mem]

anyone working deeply with runes...?

working with LAGU now, due to my crisis (by distant default) with the Katrina aftermath(ematics)...





m)empathology....

[alk mem]

The large bodies of water seem unending
when people venture out
on an unsteady craft.
High waves terrify and the surf-steeds
fail to heed the bridle
              -old english rune poem (lagu stanza)

[Isis]

great colors, great energy

[8 Wasps]

anyone plugged into this guy's work?

his HELRUNAR is pretty interesting, a kind of hybrid (sort of) OF edred thorsson and...maybe pete carroll....

but quite orignal and leaves alot room for the reader/magus to do her-his own hermeneutick thing. thang.

I'm currently reading Visual Magick (among others magic books). Having begun my "career" with the chaos perspective I find his Thelemic approach sometimes awkward. He makes a strong connection between the success of a sigil and True Will, and this could be a problem if you dont' work in that frame.

[Isis]

What do you understand under true will?


 

[alk mem]

i guess i never fully, ceremonially entered the Thelemick world only because even IT seemed a bit too structured, rigid...

what IS will...............? even before one is adorned by the Thelemick shroud?

i have been working with runes alot lately...and w i l l has been an issue for me.

seems that energy and motivation are related aspects.

of course, as we hit this current Full (harvest/wine) Moon in pisces (along with other extra-planetary forces), one must admit there are so many pressures and voids, centrifugal and centripetal forces at work.

nothing revealing in that, i know. but in saying it, i remind myself what work remains to be done, what forces and resistances and flow-ways are at play...

everytime i dig into a system (runes, chaos, etc), the cosmos still manages to Trump it. so, again, what is will??? 

[HYPOCRTRITE]

It's shaking or dancing and loosening that baddy Character Armour to me, and assuming yoga runic asanas, I cast runes for divination purposes sometimes but I would not say it appears as my favoutite system. I quite like Jan Fries he seems down to Earth more of a Shaman and a Programmer than someone who has a thousand magickal neologianisms (new words?) to bolster his or her magickal book careers. I do sometimes do it myself, it's very personal.

As for true will I don't believe in it, it's too "fixed" it's like conscription to an idiom or a stature or a mind virus that will probably change throughany given timeline, notions of what constitutes "that" seem bewildering - as for that mattter I don't believe in the notion of a HGA - it seems a disaffected portion of the right brain hemisphere to me, it seems bettter to go with the flow and act and do as a Taoist than anything else, though it could become a very tidy little Utopia if we all con-formed to Thelema but hey we maybe would become Left Hand Path Zombies all.

Saying that I have a HGA now who sometimes acts as a servitor for good times and as an evoked piece of creativity.

True will to me seems a form of anarchism and libertarianism. To go against the grain well that is devillish I bettter get some salt to sprinkle now on that reptillian tail.

[alk mem]

nice statement there HYPO...

the reptilian tale of salt and holy guardian servitors are right up the frothing, seething spine of it all....

aren't we all "struggling" (or did we "do" that to ourselves?).....

yes, in the western pathways (and northern.....) i find the "tao" approach to be quite useful in these waning days of the kali yuga.....as long as i don't wear a mandarin robe.


yes, i don't imagine the HGA as anything but an extension or implosion of myself when i need it or don't. it is irrelevant. and useful for that reason. i mean "reason" ...

[8 Wasps]

True Will

Bah... currently I'm too much involved with sorcery (low magic) to need to give a meaning to those two words.

I'll be happy with just a Fake Will indeed.... 

[conatus]

Jan Fries 'Seething'

I got really excited about this book when I first got it.  I tried it out and had trouble achieving gnosis through vibration.  I see myself more of an inhibitory gnosis person.