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« on: June 09, 2005, 12:25:01 PM »

Posthuman Blues has a take on UFO, alien and other entity visitations which sounds very much like a  Quantum Psychology/Chaos Magic tretise. If nothing else, as a belief system, this could work very well for evoking.

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"Aliens," whether perceived as gnomes or fairies or demons or even humans (as in the case of the mysterious airship sightings of the late 19th century) may be forced to appear as they are by the cultural biases and limited expectations of the witness. Thus we have a pageant of fantastic beings of all descriptions: robot-like monsters, winged entities such as the infamous "Mothman," furry giants, all manner of "little men," and, of course, the ubiquitous "Grays." However, most if not all of the above may share a common psychical origin; only by appealing to our collective unconscious can they take form at all. As such, they constitute an ongoing waking dream; they are "true hallucinations" -- quantum composites that, while objectively real (as revealed by physical effects on the environment), demand a level of unconscious participation on behalf of their wide-eyed spectators.

See "Alien visitation: a global quantum event?" for the whole article.

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2005, 02:26:15 PM »

this pulls strongly from jung and terence mckenna (actually quoting them both).  i think it explains a great deal of people's experiences in this area.  though i don't fully discredit the idea that folks also get visited by little men from outer space or the gi joe's dressed up like little men from outer space, or goddess knows what.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2005, 03:34:34 PM »

this pulls strongly from jung and terence mckenna (actually quoting them both).  i think it explains a great deal of people's experiences in this area.  though i don't fully discredit the idea that folks also get visited by little men from outer space or the gi joe's dressed up like little men from outer space, or goddess knows what.

I don't think the two things have to be mutually exclusive -- the little green men may be "real," but are only seen (and probed) by those who are psychologically predisposed to see them, for whatever reason.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2005, 06:04:54 PM »

I will even entertain the notion that they may not have existed before the witness observes them, but are entirely "real" by any test or measure while observed. Spontaneous evocation?

We should watch for Ratatosk sightings in the news now.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2005, 07:47:00 PM »


We should watch for Ratatosk sightings in the news now.


My dog loves to chase squirrels in the back yard -- I hope he's not bringing bad karma upon the household.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2005, 11:33:56 AM »

I will even entertain the notion that they may not have existed before the witness observes them, but are entirely "real" by any test or measure while observed.

do you also think that the moon only exists when someone looks at it, ala david mermin?
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2005, 12:13:01 PM »

I will even entertain the notion that they may not have existed before the witness observes them, but are entirely "real" by any test or measure while observed.

do you also think that the moon only exists when someone looks at it, ala david mermin?

MAybe, or maybe not... the only time we can say for sure is when it's being observed ;-)
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2005, 02:15:34 AM »

I am waiting for Profet Yaweh to call the UFOs again.
At least he can do UFO's on command.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2005, 10:20:16 PM »

     I think the little green men probably reside in the probability matrix or aether as our potential future selves.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2005, 07:21:48 PM »

Did anybody hear ANOTHER UFO. Negativeland.

http://www.negativland.com/nmol/ufolist.html
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2005, 11:35:28 PM »

     I think the little green men probably reside in the probability matrix or aether as our potential future selves.

So some say. I doubt that.
And they are not green.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2005, 02:26:14 AM »

Mosbunal "are not green" I however glow with emerald health.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2005, 03:24:52 AM »

Mosbunal "are not green" I however glow with emerald health.

Like your avatar?
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2005, 04:24:57 AM »

Mosbunal "are not green" I however glow with emerald health.

Like your avatar?

Yes, I used my old saucer license photo.
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2005, 05:49:25 AM »

I think the little green men probably reside in the probability matrix or aether as our potential future selves.

So some say. I doubt that.
And they are not green.

I know, they are silver.
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