Hmm... what do you all think about the common invocation of (even living) pop stars? Desire, imitation, fantasies... even obsession/madness. So much information. Any association with invocation?
Also, what about mentorship: how does it differ from invocation per se?
We had earlier the question between the difference of modelling (NLP) and invocation.
I would say modelling is observing and imitating until your own system accepts the imitation as something of its own.
A mentor helps you , you in return might model the mentor. Usually that is a very subconcious process.
It doesn't have to be.
To me the invocation has nothing to do with imitation, the hyppocrite bridge ( highly functional) or the learning we all do at one time or another.
I rather see it as awakening of a sleeping complex in the subconcious matrix or an invitation of complexes in the collective to enter and to overschaduw your personality for a time.
The change is sudden, often unexpected, the imitation process is on a growing scale. The first goes as fast as it has come. The second may be lasting.
What we see as god or demon image/idea is more a an aid for the complex to manifest. Again the map is not the territory.
The reason I prefer gods or demons for invocation is because anything human seems too small to me, with other words it wouldn't give me the jolt, I need to create an anomaly. It doesn't get me high, it simple doesn't appeal to my superego to mirror it, it has no high voltage. It is not old enough, nor has it been empowered enough through too many people during time. ( exceptions are buddha or other humans that have become halfgods/avatars through myth) The gods may have changed names, the consciousnesscomplexes named didn't.
For me an invocation is allowing a certain complex to manifest for a while, to arise from the shadow were it usually exists and come into the light.
The present habit of people to see no longer the difference between an idol and a god or demon is beyond my comprehension.
Most certainly any human that has become an idol of others has manifested a bit more of a certain archetype then the usual human being has, but with a closer look it is mostly easy to separate the human complex from the one beyond.
It is a huge difference to see someone on stage or just after the performance.
Because that what has elevated you before, is all of a sudden gone. Your idol is just another human being, not more not less.
The best one can learn from any idol in any area is the ability to let an archetype sink in to a degree that the sparks jump into the crowd. They are are great invokers. But they shouldn't be invoked themselves, because you want the moon, not the finger pointing to the moon.
With other words invoking idols living or dead goes for me in the area smarmalarm and I see it hardly worth the effort. I am not getting out of my chair for that.
Anyway you guys are experimenting with that. So I wait for the results to have a final opinion, my expectations are just not high.
In case it works, I would appreaciate if any of you invoked Jack Nickelson, or rather the Devil Character he played
in one of his movies.
