Sharing a servitor

[Isis]

I kind of noticed a trend to share servitors...

For some reason or another it doesn't appeal to me.

Maybe I think of an servitor like a customized car.
Maybe I assume a exclusive relationship with my servitors.
Maybe I am stil unclear about the cons or pros.
Maybe I am just possessive.
Maybe I just like the unique.
Maybe I am just a labelfreak.
May be I feel that good servants are hard to get.
May be I should blame my uranus/sun conjunction.


 
 

[Defenestrator]

I suppose it's one of those things that could go either way, depending on how personal the servitor feels to you. Some things you might be more likely to share with others; for instance, you might choose not to share your journal with anyone at all, you might share your car with a very select number of people, and you might share your cigarette lighter with any stranger on the street. So depending on the servitor and the scope and nature of its function, it might be appropriate to share or might not. Either way, I think it's a personal preference, and up to you.

[scarecrow]

Some people like porno;
some people really like Jenna Jameson;
she is their servitor for getting off;
they share her with everyone;
and I mean everyone;

Some people like their girlfriend/fiance/wife/other
and they don't want others getting off to her.

They both get the job done.
Attachments are different for both for each individual...but it's up to the individual to decide exactly what they are looking for, and which model fits them best.

So don't feel bad keeping your servitor to yourself.  Or sharing it.
Just feel.

[Isis]

Attachments are different for both for each individual...but it's up to the individual to decide exactly what they are looking for, and which model fits them best.

So don't feel bad keeping your servitor to yourself. Or sharing it.
Just feel.

Not feeling bad. Wondering about the attachment indeed. Which equals magical link if I am not mistaken.

You say some can attach to a collective servitor others cannot, both get the job done, why worry. 

Now in your funny metafor you bring in  porno-sex versus girlfriendsex.
If we look at results: You say result is the same: Everyone gets off.
I say result is not the same, even if everybody male gets off.
You know why?
Because the first category of your metaphor may never experience real sex
except those who had the pleasure of actually sleeping with Jenna Jameson.
Translate that to magic....
And why does JJ expose herself as servitor?  For gain. Your gain? Not really.


Meaning that with a collective servitor someone has created it. Right or wrong?
So there is no collective servitor to start with.
Now what if I would share a servitor everytime you would "get off" or have results you would
load my servitor, like men load the bankaccount of JJ?

Remember what Pete said about grouprituals? It only might impower one to get things right.
I still don't know that, it may be or not be that way. Even both could be possible. 
But the same could happen with collective servitors.
It only might impower one to get things right.
And in my opinion that would be the one who created it.
I still don't know that. It also might be different.

We had SV and obviously more people had results.
But you cannot know if every servitor out there in the collective is as friendly programmed
as SV. In fact it might have programming that you know nothing about.
Sometimes when you win you loose.

So no, my pondering is not about feeling, it is more about thinking.
So far a selfcreated servitor still seems the best option to me.

[scarecrow]

just asking; have you tried both; what were the results?

[Isis]

just asking; have you tried both; what were the results?

I will not try a collective servitor,  unless I know what I am using and why.

How about you?

[anosognosia]

just asking; have you tried both; what were the results?

I will not try a collective servitor, unless I know what I am using and why.
How about you?

I certainly understand your concerns. I've also heard arguments that a servitor by definition can't be shared. That anything shared is a egregore, a "godling." But that brings up an excellent point. What about egregores like Ouranos, or Gematria? Do you think we should have as much concern about their programming or individual agendas? Do you work with egregores at all? Certainly Stokastikos had a good point in LN about the drawbacks of second-hand gods, and your concerns are right in line with the same reasoning.

For myself it does seem like a practicing magician should mostly create their own servitors if only for accuracy and efficiency of effect, but I still see a place for shared magical entities of some sort especially the chaosatellite/cornucopia type entity I speculated about in in the Energy Draw thread. I also think a well thought-out shared servitor can work as "starter magic" for beginners. The results of SV support that to some extent, but I think you will agree that we don't have enough results to really say that for sure yet.

[scarecrow]

No group servitor; have created group sigils...good results...