My servitor experience so far

[Issarlk]

Here is what I have been doing the past several weeks to create myself a servitor (without spectacular results).

I want a general purpose servitor, a pet / compagnion. I chose a character I drew several time as my servitor, "Έρισια", a female anthro cat.
I read somewhere that some people interact and talk with their servitors in order to make them come into existence, so I did that.
I visualise her in everyday life whenever I remember to, walking up the stairs before me, climbing into my car as I leave for work, exercising on the various devices at the fitness center... etc.
So far she doens't talk and doesn't do unexpected movements. I made her say a few things but when I do it's too evident to me that I do the talking so I avoid it.
I sometime ask her to do simple things, with some success and some failure, but nothing with little probability of happening alone.
One interesting point though is that when I send her to do stuff away from me I feel her absence. Last time I sent her away I suddenly felt down and felt depressive for two days ; it got better once she returned.

Last night I did the Ouranos invocation, followed be evocation of my servitor to "make it official", or in the hope of making her more present, strenghtening her.
I prepared a sigil for her and also chose a piece of jewelry as a "fetish".
I didn't feel anything peculiar during the invocation but carried on nevertheless with the evocation. I visualised her (female anthro cat) when refering to her "form", used the fetish  when giving her blood and finally visualised her sigil instead of Ouranos's one.

Today she isn't more present than usual... so I wonder about the ritual and my choice of sigils, fetish, forms etc...


In your oppinion, for a servitor with an humanoid form, should the fetish be a sculpure representing it?
Do I even need for a sigil? And if so, what for?  I already have her form to visualise her and a physical object..

Also, has anybody tried to create a servitor by visualisation alone and interaction with it, like I tried first?


Signed: confused

[Defenestrator]

I'm still learning this stuff myself, so I don't know how much help I can be, but my impression is that you need to have a specific task or specific duties for the servitor -- it will find you a job, a lover, bring you wealth, keep telemarketers away, etc. Maybe that's part of the problem, your servitor's reason for existence is kind of vague. What kind of results are you looking for?

[Issarlk]

I want a servitor to keep myself compagny, not being alone, having something to talk to, that kind of things.

I think that I simply failed the invocation ; Ouranos is too alien to me, don't know him, don't care about him... probably bad for trying to invoke him.

[jamadara]

Seriously and sincerely, my daughter has such servitors. She calls them her "ghost friends". To my knowledge, she has none of Ouranos or any other xvocation.

I had several when I was (sic) a lad, too. Even kept an imaginary girlfriend over one summer...

[Defenestrator]

Seriously and sincerely, my daughter has such servitors. She calls them her "ghost friends". To my knowledge, she has none of Ouranos or any other xvocation.

I had several when I was (sic) a lad, too. Even kept an imaginary girlfriend over one summer...

I sometimes find myself talking to myself silently, as if explaining things to an unseen companion -- always thought I should try to stop that, but I never thought of treating it as a servitor -- asking advice, giving tasks to do, etc.

[anosognosia]

Here is what I have been doing the past several weeks to create myself a servitor (without spectacular results).

I want a general purpose servitor, a pet / compagnion. I chose a character I drew several time as my servitor, "Erisia", a female anthro cat.

Enchanting to meet new and friendly people or acquiring a pet might be more efficient for you purpose. A servitor seems like a piece of your "self" assigned to a specific task. This might explain your sense of absence when your send your servitor away. The example of the problem given in LN I believe describes a  servitor to bring sex partners. The partners come but in powering the servitor with your lust you have none left to enjoy. A one-time enchantment can work just as well and leaves you something for the party. I've found, in general, that people often make for more satisfying friends than do toasters, computers, servitors and other appliances, but your mileage may vary.

More specifically, any servitor worth hanging out with would probably be more of an egregore and would need to be invoked instead of evoked.

Also, has anybody tried to create a servitor by visualisation alone and interaction with it, like I tried first?

This can work, but amounts to astral magic. If you have excellent visualization (full sensory involvement) and great concentration then go for it, otherwise, "cheat" and use the props like I do.

[Issarlk]

I've found, in general, that people often make for more satisfying friends than do toasters, computers, servitors and other appliances, but your mileage may vary.

I don't know, "Toastermancer" sounds really cool. And toaster are hot.

More specifically, any servitor worth hanging out with would probably be more of an egregore and would need to be invoked instead of evoked.

But if you invoke, don't you sort of become the egregore for the duration of the ritual? I don't see how you can "hang out with" it then.

This can work, but amounts to astral magic. If you have excellent visualization (full sensory involvement) and great concentration then go for it, otherwise, "cheat" and use the props like I do.

I have crapy visualization, so I'll work on improving that.


Thanks all for your responses.

[anosognosia]

More specifically, any servitor worth hanging out with would probably be more of an egregore and would need to be invoked instead of evoked.

But if you invoke, don't you sort of become the egregore for the duration of the ritual? I don't see how you can "hang out with" it then.

We invoked Azathoth on the psychonaut for "the knowledge and conversation of Azathoth during possession."  This seems like a common theme in many invocations. We share part of our brain with an otherwise formless visitor so we can hang out and get to know each other better. An "astral evocation" where we visit some place in our mind and call up a visitor who then speaks to us there may only serve as a different way of looking at the same thing.

Maybe the key is we shouldn't get too hung-up on which is which as long as the entities involved are willing to go along and we get decent results.

For all of my comments about cheating and using props, I find myself with less and less time alone. I've spent much of my time recently in airports, planes and hotel rooms and among security conscious clients with more of the same ahead. If I want to continue to practice, it seems I will have to develop more skill at astral magic. This could be an interesting challenge because it means I will have to really work hard to maintain at least two of my "mundane" selves outwardly at all times among some pretty nosy folks.

[Chirotus Infinitum]

Enchanting to meet new and friendly people or acquiring a pet might be more efficient for you purpose. A servitor seems like a piece of your "self" assigned to a specific task.

I was thinking along the same line -- an enchanment seems more appropriate, and a servitor seems like a poor friend.  At worst, I would be concerned about the possibility of the servitor manifesting as a multiple personality or something like that.